1 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:11,020 foreign 2 00:00:36,110 --> 00:00:16,310 [Music] 3 00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:36,120 a UFO landing at Edwards Air Force Base 4 00:00:41,869 --> 00:00:39,180 by Charles Lear Gordon Cooper youngest 5 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:41,879 of the original Mercury astronauts often 6 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:43,920 spoke publicly about his UFO sightings 7 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:46,079 and beliefs he appeared in documentaries 8 00:00:51,410 --> 00:00:49,140 such as James Fox's 2003 film out of the 9 00:00:55,010 --> 00:00:51,420 blue and famously wrote a letter dated 10 00:00:56,990 --> 00:00:55,020 November 9 1978 to ambassador of Granada 11 00:00:59,090 --> 00:00:57,000 to the United States George Ashley 12 00:01:01,729 --> 00:00:59,100 Griffith calling for the scientific 13 00:01:04,369 --> 00:01:01,739 collection of analysis and data from UFO 14 00:01:06,890 --> 00:01:04,379 Encounters in order to determine how 15 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:06,900 best to interface with these visitors in 16 00:01:10,670 --> 00:01:08,880 a friendly fashion and out of the blue 17 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:10,680 he is heard telling a story about a 18 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:12,479 flying saucer with three retractable 19 00:01:18,170 --> 00:01:15,960 legs that was filmed Landing in 1957 at 20 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:18,180 Edwards Air Force Base he didn't claim 21 00:01:22,730 --> 00:01:19,920 to have witnessed The Landing himself 22 00:01:24,590 --> 00:01:22,740 but did say he saw the footage there was 23 00:01:26,929 --> 00:01:24,600 an incident involving the filming of a 24 00:01:29,210 --> 00:01:26,939 UFO at Edwards that year and there's a 25 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:29,220 Project Blue Book file on the case James 26 00:01:33,410 --> 00:01:31,439 McDonald found the witnesses and 27 00:01:35,870 --> 00:01:33,420 interviewed them in the late 1960s and 28 00:01:37,969 --> 00:01:35,880 wrote a report Cooper's name is not 29 00:01:40,249 --> 00:01:37,979 mentioned by McDonald and the incident 30 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:40,259 as described by McDonald and in the Blue 31 00:01:45,710 --> 00:01:43,320 Book file didn't involve a landing Brad 32 00:01:47,870 --> 00:01:45,720 Sparks and Jan Aldrich both heavily 33 00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:47,880 involved in UFO research for many years 34 00:01:52,690 --> 00:01:50,520 had an email exchange discussing this 35 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:52,700 and a record of it can be found at 36 00:01:58,190 --> 00:01:55,200 nycap.org there is an excerpt available 37 00:02:01,370 --> 00:01:58,200 online from Timothy Green beckley's 1981 38 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:01,380 book mj-12 in the riddle of Hangar 18. 39 00:02:06,170 --> 00:02:04,140 Beckley describes Cooper's 1978 40 00:02:09,050 --> 00:02:06,180 appearance on the Merv Griffin show 41 00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:09,060 during which Griffin asked Cooper if a 42 00:02:13,010 --> 00:02:10,679 story about a spaceship Landing in 43 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:13,020 Middle America with occupants that the 44 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:15,120 US government was able to keep alive was 45 00:02:19,790 --> 00:02:17,760 credible and Cooper replied I think it's 46 00:02:21,710 --> 00:02:19,800 fairly credible I would like to see the 47 00:02:23,570 --> 00:02:21,720 time when all qualified people could 48 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:23,580 really work together to properly 49 00:02:28,130 --> 00:02:25,680 investigate these stories and neither 50 00:02:30,229 --> 00:02:28,140 refute or disprove them according to 51 00:02:32,510 --> 00:02:30,239 Beckley Lee Spiegel called Cooper's 52 00:02:34,490 --> 00:02:32,520 office the next morning and managed to 53 00:02:36,589 --> 00:02:34,500 get through to him Cooper talked to 54 00:02:38,809 --> 00:02:36,599 Spiegel who was confirmed for us that he 55 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:38,819 has this on tape and told him that in 56 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:42,000 1957 or 1958 he had sent some 57 00:02:46,729 --> 00:02:43,920 photographers to an area around the dry 58 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:46,739 lake beds at Edwards Cooper said that 59 00:02:50,210 --> 00:02:48,780 while the crew was there they saw a 60 00:02:52,490 --> 00:02:50,220 strange craft and started getting 61 00:02:55,009 --> 00:02:52,500 footage of it Beckley quotes Cooper 62 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:55,019 saying the object was hovering above the 63 00:02:59,290 --> 00:02:57,480 ground and it then slowly came down and 64 00:03:02,050 --> 00:02:59,300 sat on the lake bed for a few minutes 65 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:02,060 Cooper described it as a typical 66 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:04,980 circular-shaped UFO he said he looked at 67 00:03:08,509 --> 00:03:07,200 the film repeatedly and then sent it to 68 00:03:10,910 --> 00:03:08,519 Washington and never heard anything 69 00:03:13,009 --> 00:03:10,920 about it this is likely to have been the 70 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:13,019 first time Cooper told this story on the 71 00:03:19,430 --> 00:03:15,720 record Spiegel organized a presentation 72 00:03:21,649 --> 00:03:19,440 on UFOs in 1978 at the United Nations on 73 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:21,659 behalf of prime minister bernanas or 74 00:03:25,850 --> 00:03:23,760 Eric Gary and his relationship with 75 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:25,860 Cooper had developed to the point where 76 00:03:29,390 --> 00:03:27,360 Cooper was willing to write the 77 00:03:31,130 --> 00:03:29,400 aforementioned letter to Griffith a 78 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:31,140 Project Blue Book file describes a 79 00:03:37,490 --> 00:03:33,840 similar if not the same incident that 80 00:03:38,990 --> 00:03:37,500 occurred on May 2nd 1957 at Edwards the 81 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:39,000 report starts off with the information 82 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:41,280 that the incident had received 83 00:03:46,670 --> 00:03:44,040 Nationwide publicity a story about it 84 00:03:49,610 --> 00:03:46,680 appeared in the May 9 1957 Los Angeles 85 00:03:52,430 --> 00:03:49,620 Times because it involved a UFO being 86 00:03:54,410 --> 00:03:52,440 seen and officially photographed over 87 00:03:56,930 --> 00:03:54,420 the so-called United States Secret 88 00:04:00,050 --> 00:03:56,940 testing grounds according to the report 89 00:04:02,449 --> 00:04:00,060 the object was seen by the camera Crews 90 00:04:05,089 --> 00:04:02,459 who took photos as it moved some 91 00:04:07,729 --> 00:04:05,099 distance away and described it as disc 92 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:07,739 shaped a series of 32 photos were 93 00:04:12,050 --> 00:04:09,780 studied and the object was seen to 94 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:12,060 change from round to Elliptical as the 95 00:04:16,189 --> 00:04:14,640 morning sun rays hit its surface its 96 00:04:18,289 --> 00:04:16,199 movements were determined to match up 97 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:18,299 with a wind plot for that time and it 98 00:04:22,490 --> 00:04:20,220 was concluded that the object was a 99 00:04:24,830 --> 00:04:22,500 balloon the cases described as having 100 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:24,840 been improperly handled because the 101 00:04:28,850 --> 00:04:26,880 Press got the story before Blue Book was 102 00:04:31,490 --> 00:04:28,860 informed with the Edwards Air Force Base 103 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:31,500 public information officer stating that 104 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:34,740 the object was unknown Dr James McDonald 105 00:04:39,710 --> 00:04:37,620 an atmospheric physicist who was one of 106 00:04:42,170 --> 00:04:39,720 the first scientists to speak publicly 107 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:42,180 about UFOs managed to locate the 108 00:04:46,730 --> 00:04:44,580 photographers and their supervisor and 109 00:04:48,409 --> 00:04:46,740 interview them according to Sparks in 110 00:04:50,510 --> 00:04:48,419 his email exchange with Aldridge 111 00:04:53,629 --> 00:04:50,520 McDonald was speaking in Northern 112 00:04:56,090 --> 00:04:53,639 California and met Frank E Baker who was 113 00:04:58,730 --> 00:04:56,100 the supervisor of James D bittick and 114 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:58,740 John R Gettys McDonald wrote a report 115 00:05:02,629 --> 00:05:00,479 that was submitted as part of his 116 00:05:05,210 --> 00:05:02,639 written testimony to the house committee 117 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:05,220 on science and astronautics for the July 118 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:09,720 29 1968 Symposium an unidentified flying 119 00:05:17,110 --> 00:05:13,199 objects it is identified as case 41 and 120 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:17,120 the date is mistakenly listed as May 3rd 121 00:05:21,950 --> 00:05:19,919 1957. according to McDonald bitiken 122 00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:21,960 Gettys got to an area on the Edwards 123 00:05:27,529 --> 00:05:24,600 test range known as the escania number 124 00:05:29,749 --> 00:05:27,539 four site just before 8 A.M where they 125 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:29,759 saw a disc shaped object with a dome 126 00:05:35,150 --> 00:05:32,639 about 500 yards away they described it 127 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:35,160 as having a golden color and holes or 128 00:05:39,710 --> 00:05:37,440 panels around its Dome that bittick 129 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:39,720 remembered as being Square both said 130 00:05:44,870 --> 00:05:42,180 that as it moved it seemed to Glow with 131 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:44,880 its own luminosity and had a hazy and 132 00:05:49,730 --> 00:05:47,520 indistinct halo around its Rim the men 133 00:05:52,010 --> 00:05:49,740 took photos Gettys remembered it was 134 00:05:54,529 --> 00:05:52,020 about 30 and lost sight of the object 135 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:54,539 when it was about five miles away they 136 00:05:59,330 --> 00:05:56,699 drove back to the base and processed the 137 00:06:01,370 --> 00:05:59,340 film and they along with Baker agreed 138 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:01,380 that the shot showed a sharp image 139 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:04,080 except for the hazy rim and that the 140 00:06:08,930 --> 00:06:06,000 portal slash panels could be seen 141 00:06:11,570 --> 00:06:08,940 according to McDonald the film was taken 142 00:06:14,450 --> 00:06:11,580 by base military authorities and never 143 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:14,460 seen Again by The Three Men bittick and 144 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:17,280 Carson McDonald likely wrote Carson 145 00:06:21,409 --> 00:06:19,620 instead of Gettys were later informed 146 00:06:23,689 --> 00:06:21,419 that they had seen a weather balloon 147 00:06:26,029 --> 00:06:23,699 according to McDonald they didn't agree 148 00:06:27,529 --> 00:06:26,039 with the conclusion because they saw 149 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:27,539 weather balloons being released 150 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:30,000 frequently there and knew what balloons 151 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:32,400 looked like in Sparks and aldrich's 152 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:35,039 email exchange they speculate as to why 153 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:37,319 Cooper might have inserted himself into 154 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:39,539 the story Aldrich thought there might 155 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:42,180 have been two cases but Sparks disagreed 156 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:44,880 Sparks offers two possibilities for 157 00:06:50,029 --> 00:06:47,520 Cooper's Story one storytelling 158 00:06:52,249 --> 00:06:50,039 mentality of exaggerating roles and 159 00:06:54,590 --> 00:06:52,259 details where no one can predict in 160 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:54,600 advance how much alteration the story 161 00:07:00,290 --> 00:06:57,060 will get this is the most likely 162 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:00,300 explanation Cooper probably did see the 163 00:07:05,870 --> 00:07:03,000 film and got a garbled story second or 164 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:05,880 third or emphanded and exaggerated it 165 00:07:11,450 --> 00:07:08,460 even more in his mind in the retelling 166 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:11,460 to Juice It Up 2. Cooper's exaggeration 167 00:07:15,830 --> 00:07:14,400 of a real case falsely turning it into a 168 00:07:18,529 --> 00:07:15,840 filmed Landing with landing gear 169 00:07:20,390 --> 00:07:18,539 retracting on takeoff is very similar to 170 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:20,400 the pattern of Air Force office of 171 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:23,460 special investigations Fabrications of 172 00:07:28,850 --> 00:07:26,400 other real UFO cases with false Landings 173 00:07:31,550 --> 00:07:28,860 and Aliens using Air Force officers 174 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:31,560 usually at about the rank of Colonel and 175 00:07:36,830 --> 00:07:33,440 designed to discredit the case 176 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:36,840 bentwater's 1980s the classic Cooper was 177 00:07:41,689 --> 00:07:39,360 an Air Force officer and I think retired 178 00:07:44,510 --> 00:07:41,699 at the rank of full Colonel Cooper first 179 00:07:47,930 --> 00:07:44,520 came out with his phony story about 1978 180 00:07:50,689 --> 00:07:47,940 exactly when afosi began a new wave of 181 00:07:52,249 --> 00:07:50,699 fabricated UFO stories in an effort to 182 00:07:54,770 --> 00:07:52,259 head off what was feared to be another 183 00:07:58,249 --> 00:07:54,780 massive UFO flap triggered by the 184 00:08:01,189 --> 00:07:58,259 Blockbuster ce3 movie so what have we 185 00:08:04,189 --> 00:08:01,199 learned one people sometimes exaggerate 186 00:08:07,730 --> 00:08:04,199 and make things up 2. Air Force Colonels 187 00:08:10,610 --> 00:08:07,740 telling UFO stories around 1978 are not 188 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:10,620 to be trusted Charles Lear is the author 189 00:08:18,730 --> 00:08:12,900 of The Flying Saucer investigators 190 00:08:18,740 --> 00:08:26,280 thank you